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I have heard you say on a podcast- “young people are attracted to socialism because they simply know no history.”

You then went on to use the murderous regimes of Stalin, Mao etc as evidence that socialism can’t possibly have any merit and capitalism is superior.

However- you conveniently leave out the violent regimes of the capitalist world and do not use the same logic when relating them to capitalism as you do in the socialism examples. It is incredible that you can use murderous regimes as evidence against socialism while leaving out slavery or the way the west was won - or even recent wars in Vietnam where we committed crimes against humanity under the dubious guise of fighting communism. You could also apply the same logic to make arguments against liberty if you are drawing a red line with violence. Extreme act of Violence and mass killings among citizens occurs at lower rates in socialist societies than in the most successful capitalist society- does this give reason to claim liberty is the cause of such violence and thus should be constrained?

If your Gold standard for debasing an entire system is violence by its leaders then you should also be against capitalism given the incentives it provides for the production of arms which perpetuate said violence and liberty given the extreme violence that are prevalent in both systems.

Simply put - I think you can do better. You have a stance on these things, such as anarchy capitalism which you have a right to have. But Free thinkers can also very clearly underscore the dangers of capitalism and libertarian ideology and to suggest there are no viable reasons for promoting a more socialist agenda except being uneducated, is short sighted. There are many outcomes in socialist societies, successful ones, that hit higher marks than in our capitalist society. Capitalism and socialism each have their benefits to add to the good life and their preference really has to do with the outcome one is seeking.

Thus I find this argument strange and would like to understand whether you really see this as a viable arguement against socialism and if you will continue to repeat it given the chance.

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